Ways and Means

THIRTY-THIRD MEETING

2019-2020 Regular Session - Friday, May 1, 2020

STATE OF MINNESOTA THIRTY-THIRD MEETING
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES NINETY-FIRST SESSION

WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE

MINUTES

Representative Lyndon Carlson, Chair of the Committee, called the remote Ways and Means Committee meeting to order at 9:45 A.M. on Friday, May 1, 2020, pursuant to House rule 10.01. The meeting was conducted over Zoom and broadcast via House Public Information Services, Facebook Live, and YouTube live streaming.

The Committee Legislative Assistant noted the roll.

Members present:

CARLSON, Lyndon, (Chair)
OLSON, Liz (Vice-Chair)
GAROFALO, Pat (GOP-Lead)
ALBRIGHT, Tony
BERNARDY, Connie
DAVIDS, Greg
DAVNIE, Jim
DRAZKOWSKI, Steve
ECKLUND, Rob
HAMILTON, Rod
HANSEN, Rick
HAUSMAN, Alice
HERTAUS, Jerry
HORNSTEIN, Frank
KRESHA, Ron
LIEBLING, Tina
LILLIE, Leon
LONG, Jamie
MARIANI, Carlos
MARQUART, Paul
NELSON, Michael
NOOR, Mohamud
PELOWSKI, Gene, Jr.
POPPE, Jeanne
SCOTT, Peggy
TORKELSON, Paul
WAGENIUS, Jean

Members Excused:

SCHOMACKER, Joe
VOGEL, Bob

A quorum was present.

Representative Olson moved that the minutes of April 29, 2020 be adopted. THE MOTION PREVAILED.

HF168 (Schultz) Temporary PCA rate increase during COVID-19 emergency

Representative Olson moved adoption of the Health and Human Service Finance Division Report for HF168. THE MOTION PREVAILED. THE DIVISION REPORT WAS ADOPTED.

Representative Olson moved that HF168, as amended, be recommended to be placed on the General Register.

Representative Schultz presented HF168 and explained the A8 amendment.

Representative Olson moved to adopt the H0168A8 amendment. THE MOTION PREVAILED. THE AMENDMENT WAS ADOPTED.

Representative Schultz presented the bill as amended and answered member questions.

Representative Lippert commented on the bill and answered member questions.

Bill Marx, Chief Fiscal Analyst, answered questions on HF168.

Representative Olson renewed the motion that HF168, as amended, be recommended to be placed on the General Register. A roll call was taken, and the results were as follows:

AYES:

CARLSON
OLSON
BERNARDY
DAVNIE
ECKLUND
HANSEN
HAUSMAN
HORNSTEIN
LIEBLING
LILLIE
LONG
MARIANI
MARQUART
NELSON
NOOR
PELOWSKI
POPPE
WAGENIUS

NAYS:

GAROFALO
ALBRIGHT
DAVIDS
DRAZKOWSKI
HAMILTON
HERTAUS
KRESHA
SCOTT
TORKELSON

ABSENT/EXCUSED:

SHOMACKER
VOGEL

By a vote of 18 AYES and 9 NAYS, THE MOTION PREVAILED.

HF4541 (Hausman) COVID-19; eviction and mortgage foreclosure protection and emergency housing assistance provided during a public health emergency, report required, penalties for false statements provided, and money appropriated

Representative Hausman moved that HF4541 be recommended to be placed on the General Register.

Representative Hausman moved adoption of the H4541A2 amendment and explained the amendment.

Bill Marx, Chief Fiscal Analyst, answered question on the amendment.

Representative Hausman renewed the motion to adopt the H4541A2 amendment. THE MOTION PREVAILED. THE AMENDMENT WAS ADOPTED.

Representative Hausman explained the bill as amended and answered member questions.

Ryan Baumtrog, Assistant Commissioner of Policy, Minnesota Housing, answered member questions.

Representative Hausman renewed the motion that HF4541, as amended, be recommended to be placed on the General Register. A roll call was taken, and the results were as follows:

AYES:

CARLSON
OLSON
BERNARDY
DAVNIE
ECKLUND
HANSEN
HAUSMAN
HORNSTEIN
LIEBLING
LILIE
LONG
MARIANI
MARQUART
NELSON
NOOR
PELOWSKI
POPPE
WAGENIUS

NAYS:

GAROFALO
ALBRIGHT
DAVIDS
DRAZKOWSKI
HAMILTON
HERTAUS
KRESHA
SCOTT
TORKELSON

ABSENT/EXCUSED:

SCHOMACKER
VOGEL

By a vote of 18 AYES and 9 NAYS, THE MOTION PREVAILED.

HF1507 (Stephenson) Minnesota investment fund grant program limits modified, job training grant program modified, and money appropriated

Representative Olson moved adoption of the Jobs and Economic Development Finance Division Report for HF1507. THE MOTION PREVAILED. THE DIVISION REPORT WAS ADOPTED.

Representative Olson moved that HF1507, as amended, be recommended to be placed on the General Register.

Representative Olson moved to adopt the H1507DE4 amendment.

Representative Stephenson explained the DE4 amendment.

Representative Olson renewed the motion to adopt the H1507DE4 amendment. THE MOTION PREVAILED. THE AMENDMENT WAS ADOPTED.

Representative Olson moved to adopt the H1507A8 amendment. THE MOTION PREVAILED. THE AMENDMENT WAS ADOPTED.

Representative Olson moved that the language contained in the DE4 Amendment as amended be included as Article 1 of the COVID-19 Economic Security Act. THE MOTION PREVAILED.

Representative Ecklund moved to adopt the H1507A10 amendment and explained the amendment.

Representative Ecklund moved to incorporate a technical oral amendment to the H1507A10 amendment as follows:

Page 5, line 18, delete “No money in this appropriation may be spent”
Page 5, delete lines 19 and 20

THE MOTION PREVAILED. THE ORAL AMENDMENT WAS INCORPORATED.

Representative Ecklund moved to adopt the H1507A12 amendment to the A10 amendment, with a technical oral amendment.

Colbey Sullivan, House Research, explained the oral amendment to A12 amendment.

Page 1, delete lines 3-5

Representative Ecklund moved the H1507A12 amendment, with the technical oral amended incorporated into it.

THE MOTION PREVAILED, THE AMENDMENT, AS INCORPORATED WAS ADOPTED.

Representative Davnie moved to adopt the H1507A11 amendment to the A10 amendment.

Representative Davnie explained the amendment and answered member questions.

Bill Marx, Chief Fiscal Analyst, and Colbey Sullivan, House Research, answered questions on the A11 amendment.

Representative Davnie renewed the motion to adopt the H1507A11 amendment to the A10 amendment. THE MOTION PREVAILED. THE AMENDMENT WAS ADOPTED.

Representative Kresha moved to adopt the H1507A13 amendment.

Representative Kresha withdrew the H1507A13 amendment.

Representative Ecklund renewed the motion to adopt the H1507A10 amendment as amended. THE MOTION PREVAILED. THE AMENDMENT WAS ADOPTED.

Representative Ecklund moved that the language contained in the H1507A10 amendment, as amended, be included as Article 2 of the COVID-19 Economic Security Act.

Angie Dickinson, Office of Broadband Development, DEED, answered member questions.

Representative Ecklund renewed the motion that the language contained in the H1507A10 amendment, as amended, be included as Article 2 of the COVID-19 Economic Security Act. A roll call was taken, and the results were as follows:

AYES:

CARLSON
OLSON
BERNARDY
DAVNIE
ECKLUND
HANSEN
HAUSMAN
HORNSTEIN
LIEBLING
LILLIE
LONG
MARIANI
MARQUART
NELSON
NOOR
PELOWSKI
POPPE
WAGENIUS

NAYS:

GAROFALO
DRAZKOWSKI
HAMILTON
HERTAUS
KRESHA
SCOTT
TORKELSON

ABSENT/EXCUSED:

ALBRIGHT
DAVIDS
SCHOMACKER
VOGEL

By a vote of 18 AYES and 7 NAYS, THE MOTION PREVAILED.

Representative Hausman moved that the language previously adopted in HF4541, as amended, be incorporated as Article 3 of the COVID-19 Economic Security Act. THE MOTION PREVAILED.

Representative Olson moved that the language previously adopted in HF168, as amended, be incorporated as Article 4 of the COVID-19 Economic Security Act. THE MOTION PREVAILED.

Representative Olson moved to adopt the H1507A9 amendment.

Bill Marx, Chief Fiscal Analyst, explained the amendment.

Representative Olson renewed the motion to adopt the H1507A9 amendment. THE MOTION PREVAILED. THE AMENDMENT WAS ADOPTED.

Representative Olson renewed the motion that HF1507, as amended, be recommended to be placed on the General Register, and that staff be directed to make technical corrections and amend the title.

Members discussed HF1507 and made closing comments.

A roll call was taken, and the results were as follows:

AYES:

CARLSON
OLSON
BERNARDY
DAVNIE
ECKLUND
HANSEN
HAUSMAN
HORNSTEIN
LIEBLING
LILLIE
LONG
MARIANI
MARQUART
NELSON
NOOR
PELOWSKI
POPPE
WAGENIUS

NAYS:

GAROFALO
DRAZKOWSKI
HAMILTON
HERTAUS
KRESHA
SCOTT
TORKELSON

ABSENT/EXCUSED:

ALBRIGHT
DAVIDS
SCHOMACKER
VOGEL

By a vote of 18 AYES and 7 NAYS, THE MOTION PREVAILED.

Chair Carlson made some administrative announcements.

The meeting adjourned at 12:07 P.M.

_________________________________________

Representative Lyndon Carlson, Chair

_________________________________________
Laura Sparkman, Committee Legislative Assistant

More Info On This Meeting..

Bills Added:

HF3029 (Ecklund) - COVID-19; distance learning equipment grant program established, grant program established for telemedicine equipment purchased, reports required, and money appropriated.
HF1507 (Stephenson) - COVID-19 Economic Security Act established, loans modified during public health emergency, small business loans and grants provided, grants provided for expanding broadband and telemedicine, housing assistance provided, personal care assistance services expanded, personal care assistant rates increased, penalties provided, and money appropriated.
HF168 (Schultz) - COVID-19; personal care assistant and support worker hour limitations increased, personal care assistance compensation permitted for services provided by a parent or spouse during a peacetime emergency for an outbreak, temporary rate increases provided for personal care assistance, and money appropriated.
HF4541 (Hausman) - COVID-19; eviction and mortgage foreclosure protection and emergency housing assistance provided during a public health emergency, report required, penalties for false statements provided, and money appropriated.

Documents:

HF 1507 Division Report.pdf - 4/28/2020
HF168-7A Completed FN.pdf - 4/28/2020
0168dive2 Schultz.dp.pdf - 4/29/2020
Letter in Support of Small Business Emergency Loans.pdf - 4/29/2020
DIVH0168CR2.pdf - 4/29/2020
H1507DE4.pdf - 4/30/2020
H4541A2.pdf - 4/30/2020
H0168A8.pdf - 4/30/2020
H1507A8.pdf - 4/30/2020
H1507A9.pdf - 4/30/2020
512020 Ways and Means Agendashort.pdf - 4/30/2020
H1507A10.pdf - 4/30/2020
H1507A11-302051458092563839.pdf - 4/30/2020
Ways and Means Minutes 4.29.20 (003).pdf - 4/30/2020
H1507A12.pdf - 4/30/2020
HF 1507 Spreadsheet 4-30.pdf - 4/30/2020
H1507A13-7302126852593517590.pdf - 4/30/2020
FINAL GTCUW Letter - MN House Ways Means Cmte - 05.01.201.pdf - 4/30/2020
Debra Howze Letter - HF 168.pdf - 5/1/2020
Brittanie Hernandez Wilson Letter - HF 168.pdf - 5/1/2020

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• This meeting held in accordance with House Rule 10.01 •.
01:30 - HF168 (Schultz) Temporary PCA rate increase during COVID-19 emergency.
31:23 - HF4541 (Hausman) COVID-19; eviction and mortgage foreclosure protection and emergency housing assistance provided during a public health emergency, report required, penalties for false statements provided, and money appropriated.
1:02:05 - HF1507 (Stephenson) Minnesota investment fund grant program limits modified, job training grant program modified, and money appropriated.
1:46:43 - Merging of above bills into the amended HF1507: COVID-19 Economic Security Act.
Runs 2 hours, 20 minutes.

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This meeting is scheduled until 12:45 if necessary.

This remote hearing is taking place under Rule 10.01, which you may view here: https://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/cco/rules/permrule/1001.htm

I. HF 168 (Schultz) Temporary PCA rate increase during COVID-19 emergency
II. HF 4541 (Hausman) COVID-19; eviction and mortgage foreclosure protection and emergency housing assistance provided during a public health emergency, report required, penalties for false statements provided, and money appropriated
III. HF 1507 (Stephenson) Minnesota investment fund grant program limits modified, job training grant program modified, and money appropriated

BILL REMOVED: HF 3029 (Ecklund) Broadband development grant program annual statutory appropriation provided, and money appropriated (pending referral)

NOTE: A decision has been made to package the four COVID-19 bills that were the agenda into a larger COVID-19 Economic Security Act package. HF 1507 will be the vehicle. A series of motions to move the language adopted in the individual bills into HF 1507 as separate articles will be made before HF 1507 moves out to General Register. At this point, HF 3029 (Ecklund) remains in the Rules Committee. The broadband proposal will be offered as an amendment to HF 1507.

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